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07-08-2008, 01:12 AM
Sick idd, flinke deceptie dit! Maar sorry dat ik het zeg Dennis, ik vond het ook echt 3x bagger. Ik zie je toch 2 echt essentiele fouten maken. Die QJ op de button.. m.i. mag je die nooit openen als je zijn shove niet callt. Hij heeft ideale reshove stack, zijn range is daar zoooo imens groot! any pair, any Ace, suited kings, sc's.... alles shoved ie daar. Denk dat je nog best had kunnen callen met QJ.

Daarna zie ik je nog openlimpen voor 100 punten met maar 1300 punten???

Ja en die bluf deed het hem uiteindelijk, valt altijd over te twisten. NIet veel zinnigs over te zeggen, je word natuurlijk wel licher afgecallt in blinds battles. Ik c-bet dan liever flop en bluf river, heeft vaak beter effect omdat je veel float hands zo oppakt dan.

gl next time
Simr ('90+2)
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[No subject] - by Jansoe - 12-12-2007, 08:08 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:10 PM
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[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:16 PM
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[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:19 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:22 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:26 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:27 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:28 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:28 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:29 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:30 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:30 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:32 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:33 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:34 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:34 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:35 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:35 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:36 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:37 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:39 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:40 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 12-12-2007, 08:40 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:41 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 12-12-2007, 08:42 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:43 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 12-12-2007, 08:44 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:49 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:50 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 12-12-2007, 08:51 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 12-12-2007, 08:51 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 12-12-2007, 08:52 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 12-12-2007, 08:52 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 12-12-2007, 08:53 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 12-12-2007, 08:55 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 12-12-2007, 08:56 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 13-12-2007, 12:59 AM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 13-12-2007, 02:20 AM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 13-12-2007, 11:46 AM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 13-12-2007, 10:27 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 14-12-2007, 11:38 AM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 14-12-2007, 01:21 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 14-12-2007, 02:05 PM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 14-12-2007, 04:04 PM
[No subject] - by Treesong - 14-12-2007, 04:08 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 14-12-2007, 06:25 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 14-12-2007, 06:27 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 14-12-2007, 06:32 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 14-12-2007, 06:34 PM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 14-12-2007, 06:39 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 14-12-2007, 07:33 PM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 14-12-2007, 09:09 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 15-12-2007, 02:31 PM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 15-12-2007, 04:49 PM
[No subject] - by Mac - 15-12-2007, 04:58 PM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 15-12-2007, 05:18 PM
[No subject] - by Ekslem - 15-12-2007, 05:33 PM
[No subject] - by Fabian - 17-12-2007, 11:07 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 18-12-2007, 07:41 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 18-12-2007, 11:06 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 18-12-2007, 11:25 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 18-12-2007, 11:30 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 19-12-2007, 12:07 AM
[No subject] - by buurs - 19-12-2007, 12:10 AM
[No subject] - by harry_bierdop - 19-12-2007, 03:35 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 19-12-2007, 04:12 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 19-12-2007, 04:17 PM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 19-12-2007, 04:18 PM
[No subject] - by buurs - 19-12-2007, 04:36 PM
[No subject] - by Ad Wim - 19-12-2007, 04:40 PM
[No subject] - by Fabian - 22-12-2007, 01:48 AM
[No subject] - by gittermaster - 22-12-2007, 03:05 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 23-12-2007, 01:45 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 23-12-2007, 03:22 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 29-12-2007, 03:18 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 03-01-2008, 01:03 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Treesong - 03-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 03-01-2008, 01:37 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 03-01-2008, 01:48 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Treesong - 03-01-2008, 01:53 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 03-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 03-01-2008, 10:00 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-01-2008, 03:43 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-01-2008, 04:36 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 06-01-2008, 03:54 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 06-01-2008, 03:56 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 06-01-2008, 04:19 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 06-01-2008, 04:19 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 08-01-2008, 09:57 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 08-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 08-01-2008, 10:45 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 08-01-2008, 11:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 09-01-2008, 10:10 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 09-01-2008, 07:55 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 09-01-2008, 09:13 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 28-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 28-01-2008, 11:50 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 29-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 29-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 29-01-2008, 11:13 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 29-01-2008, 11:49 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 02-02-2008, 01:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 04-02-2008, 09:00 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 12-02-2008, 08:57 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 18-02-2008, 09:17 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 20-03-2008, 09:07 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 23-03-2008, 07:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 24-03-2008, 03:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 24-03-2008, 05:41 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 24-03-2008, 06:13 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 07:08 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 24-03-2008, 07:15 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 07:16 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 07:19 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 24-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 24-03-2008, 07:29 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 25-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 26-03-2008, 11:08 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 01-04-2008, 08:40 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 21-04-2008, 09:00 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 21-04-2008, 11:57 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by BIERTEAM.NET - 30-04-2008, 12:14 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 30-04-2008, 01:07 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by BIERTEAM.NET - 01-05-2008, 11:28 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 02-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 05-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-05-2008, 10:16 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 05-05-2008, 10:16 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 05-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 05-05-2008, 11:05 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Box Brother - 05-05-2008, 01:01 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 05-05-2008, 01:08 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 10-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 11-05-2008, 05:17 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 14-05-2008, 12:59 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 14-05-2008, 11:04 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 14-05-2008, 04:26 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 14-05-2008, 04:57 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 14-05-2008, 05:00 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Treesong - 14-05-2008, 05:06 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 14-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 21-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 21-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 21-05-2008, 07:13 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 21-05-2008, 08:22 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 04-06-2008, 09:14 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 04-06-2008, 09:19 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 06-06-2008, 01:56 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 06-06-2008, 08:22 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 06-06-2008, 12:25 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 07-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 07-06-2008, 10:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 07-06-2008, 10:07 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 07-06-2008, 10:08 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 08-06-2008, 09:35 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 08-06-2008, 10:01 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 08-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 08-06-2008, 12:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 08-06-2008, 01:16 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 08-06-2008, 03:43 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 08-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 08-06-2008, 08:27 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 08-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 08-06-2008, 09:39 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 08-06-2008, 09:40 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 08-06-2008, 09:52 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 08-06-2008, 10:13 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 09-06-2008, 07:31 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ad Wim - 09-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 09-06-2008, 10:40 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 09-06-2008, 11:02 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 09-06-2008, 11:20 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by buurs - 09-06-2008, 12:03 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 09-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 09-06-2008, 01:18 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 10-06-2008, 04:36 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 10-06-2008, 11:55 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 11-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 11-06-2008, 12:21 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 11-06-2008, 12:27 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 11-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 11-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 11-06-2008, 01:10 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 11-06-2008, 01:17 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 11-06-2008, 01:29 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 11-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 11-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 11-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 11-06-2008, 04:44 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Lamme Lennie - 11-06-2008, 05:17 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 16-06-2008, 11:21 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 16-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 04-08-2008, 11:10 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 12:10 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 12:17 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 01:24 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 05-08-2008, 08:16 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 08:26 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-08-2008, 08:54 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 09:46 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 10:04 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 10:08 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 11:13 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 05-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 05-08-2008, 11:41 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 05-08-2008, 03:28 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 05-08-2008, 08:34 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 06-08-2008, 08:16 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 06-08-2008, 08:35 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 06-08-2008, 10:11 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 06-08-2008, 11:51 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 12:15 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 07-08-2008, 12:28 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 12:33 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 07-08-2008, 12:46 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 12:50 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 12:51 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 12:58 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 07-08-2008, 01:12 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 07-08-2008, 09:06 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 07-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 02:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Treesong - 07-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 07-08-2008, 03:49 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 25-08-2008, 08:41 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 25-08-2008, 09:16 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 25-08-2008, 09:23 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by centre court - 25-08-2008, 09:47 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 25-08-2008, 10:06 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 30-08-2008, 04:47 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 31-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 31-08-2008, 08:55 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 31-08-2008, 09:04 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Bocaloca - 01-09-2008, 10:49 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 01-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 01-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Bocaloca - 01-09-2008, 11:55 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 01-09-2008, 12:12 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 01-09-2008, 12:59 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 04-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 04-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by kooltje - 04-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 04-09-2008, 08:40 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 14-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 15-10-2008, 09:16 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 15-10-2008, 09:25 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 19-10-2008, 11:16 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 19-10-2008, 11:25 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 19-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 19-10-2008, 11:41 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Ekslem - 27-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 31-10-2008, 01:40 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 22-12-2008, 02:26 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Chiel-Montagne - 26-12-2008, 05:09 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Davydoff - 26-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 30-12-2008, 03:02 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 31-12-2008, 01:52 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 31-12-2008, 07:56 AM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by harry_bierdop - 31-12-2008, 02:51 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by Mac - 31-12-2008, 03:34 PM
Re: gloryhunt topic - by gittermaster - 31-12-2008, 06:20 PM

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