Tsjechie - Nederland

Tsjechie - Nederland

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11-10-2005, 03:05 PM

Lance Wrote:Da's volgens mij slechts de halve waarheid. Er waren dacht ik onder Dickie ook al voorselecties, maar dat werd niet in de media bekend gemaakt. Dit om heisa eromheen te vermijden. Maar Advocaat belde de personen zelf op (of liet dat doen) als ze uiteindelijk toch niet bij de echte selectie zaten.

Dat is toch precies wat ik zeg? :| Volgens mij waren destijds de voorselecties maar 20 of 21 man waarvan er dan 2 of 3 afvielen en niet 30 waar nog bijna een heel elftal van thuis kon blijven, dus dan viel er niet zo heel veel af te bellen/te zeuren waarom er spelers wel dan niet geselecteerd werden.

Lance Wrote:Maar Dickie trok zich idd wat aan van de media. Hij deed juist niet wat de media wilde. Iedereen zeurde om verjonging, maar hij hield (tot Schotland thuis) juist vast aan de oude garde. Is trouwens leuk die vHanegem theorie, maar denk niet dat het zo zal gaan. vBasten trekt toch wel z'n eigen plan.

Zeurde iedereen om verjonging? Ik kan me niet herinneren dat dat het geval was. Alle spelers speelden toch bij grote clubs, dus in principe viel er op die selecties niet zoveel af te dingen. Natuurlijk moet je geleidelijk verjongen, en zoals het nu gebeurt pakt het goed uit, maar als we 2 keer van Tsjechie en van Macedonie verloren hadden en gelijkgespeeld tegen Armenie (en dat had allemaal best gekund), dan waren we nu vrolijk 3e in de poule en uitgeschakeld voor het WK en was van Basten volledig afgebrand in de media. Tis allemaal theoretisch en geluk dwing je af, maar echt overtuigend qua spel was het niet, maar dat is het risico van
veel jonge, onervaren spelers inpassen en ik vind het prima.

Lance Wrote:Iets waar Willem wel gelijk in heeft is zn column van vandaag. Ietwat indirect geeft hij hier aan dat Nederland meer dan ÃÂ©ÃÂ©n concept moet kunnen spelen, wil je wereldkampioen. Je kunt niet altijd 4-3-3 blijven spelen, omdat je dan tegen echte topteams de slag op het middenveld zal verliezen. In die zin lijkt me het ook handig om Makaay te selecteren, omdat hij juist in een 4-4-2 concept bijvoorbeeld beter tot zn recht komt.

Bayern speelt eigenlijk 4-5-1-countervoetbal, dus das wel heel negatief, maar vrijwel alle spelers spelen in de praktijk 4-4-2 bij hun club, dus het is voor de meeste spelers makkelijker. Maar ik blijf het onbegrijpelijk vinden dat voetballers eigenlijk maar 1 systeem kunnen spelen.

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